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I may have missed a posting. Did anyone report the death on Dec 21, 2009 of
Marianne Stone who played the role of Vivian Darkbloom alongside Sue Lyon¹s
Lolita? The Times obit carried a photo of Marianne with Sue and Peter
Sellers. Reminding us, yet again, that Kubrick¹s nymph is coyly cast as 2
years older than VN¹s nymphet.
The theory that his¹ emerged from a computer mistranslation of her¹ would
be stronger if role,¹ career¹ and fortune¹ were all masculine in the
original language. E.g., son role¹ in French might trigger the
schoolboy/machine error of taking son¹ = his.¹ On the other hand, we would
find sa carriere¹ which the same schoolboy/machine might take (correctly!)
as her career!¹ It¹s also sa fortune,¹ of course, but the original might
have been son bonheur?¹ We may never know!
Be-lated Hogmanay greetings.
Stan Kelly-Bootle
On 04/01/2010 13:28, "Nabokv-L" <nabokv-l@UTK.EDU> wrote:
> EDNote: Although it is officially against our policy to post witticisms that
> do not contain a critical argument, new factual information, or other relevant
> content, Tom Seifrid's quip below is so apt that I have decided to repost it
> along with the original critique of the Lyon biography review: it is intended
> for belated New Year's enjoyment, and as a crisp example of exactly the kind
> of delightful rejoinder that we are nearly always obliged to reject. If ever
> you are feeling clever and witty, please preserve the results and append them
> to your juiciest of discoveries! ~SB
>
> Subject:
> Re: [NABOKV-L] Sue Lyon biography ...
> From:
> "Thomas Seifrid" <seifrid@usc.edu> <mailto:seifrid@usc.edu>
> Date:
> Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:22:56 -0800
> To:
> "Vladimir Nabokov Forum" <NABOKV-L@listserv.ucsb.edu>
> <mailto:NABOKV-L@listserv.ucsb.edu>
> Perhaps the review should be titled, "A Boy Named Sue."
>
> Cheers,
> Tom Seifrid
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ari Lieberman <mailto:alieberm@PRINCETON.EDU>
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Sue Lyon biography ...
>
> Dear Sandy Klein,
>
> I'm pretty sure this article was translated into English (from what
> language?) by an electronic translator. Look no further than the first two
> sentences: "Actress driven to stardom thanks to his [?????] role as the famous
> Lolita....Acquired star status in her debut was not sustained for long, and
> his [?????] promising career collapsed"
>
> Other gems:
>
> "Although it was larger than the protagonist of the novel as it had for 15
> years, Sue accepted the offer of Kubrick..."
>
> "The marriage lasted less than a year and finally divorced in 1965."
>
> "His fortunes changed cinema in the late 70s, sunset and end of his career..."
>
> "Finally, in 1985 found emotional stability telecommunications engineer
> Richard Rudman, with whom she lived until his recent divorce."
>
> Yours,
>
> Ari Lieberman
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Marianne Stone who played the role of Vivian Darkbloom alongside Sue Lyon¹s
Lolita? The Times obit carried a photo of Marianne with Sue and Peter
Sellers. Reminding us, yet again, that Kubrick¹s nymph is coyly cast as 2
years older than VN¹s nymphet.
The theory that his¹ emerged from a computer mistranslation of her¹ would
be stronger if role,¹ career¹ and fortune¹ were all masculine in the
original language. E.g., son role¹ in French might trigger the
schoolboy/machine error of taking son¹ = his.¹ On the other hand, we would
find sa carriere¹ which the same schoolboy/machine might take (correctly!)
as her career!¹ It¹s also sa fortune,¹ of course, but the original might
have been son bonheur?¹ We may never know!
Be-lated Hogmanay greetings.
Stan Kelly-Bootle
On 04/01/2010 13:28, "Nabokv-L" <nabokv-l@UTK.EDU> wrote:
> EDNote: Although it is officially against our policy to post witticisms that
> do not contain a critical argument, new factual information, or other relevant
> content, Tom Seifrid's quip below is so apt that I have decided to repost it
> along with the original critique of the Lyon biography review: it is intended
> for belated New Year's enjoyment, and as a crisp example of exactly the kind
> of delightful rejoinder that we are nearly always obliged to reject. If ever
> you are feeling clever and witty, please preserve the results and append them
> to your juiciest of discoveries! ~SB
>
> Subject:
> Re: [NABOKV-L] Sue Lyon biography ...
> From:
> "Thomas Seifrid" <seifrid@usc.edu> <mailto:seifrid@usc.edu>
> Date:
> Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:22:56 -0800
> To:
> "Vladimir Nabokov Forum" <NABOKV-L@listserv.ucsb.edu>
> <mailto:NABOKV-L@listserv.ucsb.edu>
> Perhaps the review should be titled, "A Boy Named Sue."
>
> Cheers,
> Tom Seifrid
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ari Lieberman <mailto:alieberm@PRINCETON.EDU>
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Sue Lyon biography ...
>
> Dear Sandy Klein,
>
> I'm pretty sure this article was translated into English (from what
> language?) by an electronic translator. Look no further than the first two
> sentences: "Actress driven to stardom thanks to his [?????] role as the famous
> Lolita....Acquired star status in her debut was not sustained for long, and
> his [?????] promising career collapsed"
>
> Other gems:
>
> "Although it was larger than the protagonist of the novel as it had for 15
> years, Sue accepted the offer of Kubrick..."
>
> "The marriage lasted less than a year and finally divorced in 1965."
>
> "His fortunes changed cinema in the late 70s, sunset and end of his career..."
>
> "Finally, in 1985 found emotional stability telecommunications engineer
> Richard Rudman, with whom she lived until his recent divorce."
>
> Yours,
>
> Ari Lieberman
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