Three contributions below: one from Laurence Hochard, one from Victor Fet, and one from Jansy Mello.

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Subject: VN, Georgia and Ossetia
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:51:32 -0700
From: Laurence Hochard <laurence.hochard@HOTMAIL.FR>
To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
CC: Laurence Hochard <laurence.hochard@HOTMAIL.FR>

Dear list,

I'm afraid it's hopeless to try and guess what VN would have
thought of the current situation in Georgia. He was often ironical about
powerful neighbours meddling in weaker countries' affairs (in PF for
instance), but if Russia is Georgia's powerful neighbour, Georgia can be
seen in the same light with regard to Ossetia.
It is even more risky to try and infer his stance from his works of
fiction; in his introduction to ITAB, he wrote: "The question whether or
not my seeing both (the Bolshevist and Nazi régimes) in terms of one dull
and beastly farce has any effect on this book should concern the good
reader as little as it does me". The "totalitarian" state in ITAB has
nothing to do with Hitler or Staline; it is, I think, a metaphor for an
inner tyrannical state (let's say the tiranny of desire) and it crumbles to
nothing as soon as Cincinnatus stops arm-wrestling with it to make "his way
in that direction where [...] stood beings akin to him."
I'm thinking of Signs and Symbols too, where the old couple has
fled a totalitarian state; if VN had meant it as an historical reality, why
then is the atmosphere in America surrounding the couple just as oppressive
and nightmarish as it was in Europe?
Moreover, in That in Aleppo Once, where the story takes place in
France during the exodus following the German invasion, VN makes it even
clearer that his stories are not ABOUT historical totalitarianism; he uses
it as a source of metaphors and symbols.: "... and the farther we fled, the
clearer it became that what was driving us on was something more than a
booted and buckled fool with his assortment of variously propelled junk -
something of which he was a mere symbol, something monstrous and
impalpable, a timeless and faceless mass of immemorial horror..."

Laurence Hochard





Subject:
RE: [NABOKV-L] REPLY re VN, Agression, Georga
From:
"Fet, Victor" <fet@marshall.edu>
Date:
Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:08:34 -0400
To:
Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>

On Charles Nicol’s comments, strictlty fact-correction:
 
1.       Valentina [“Lyusya”] Evgenievna Shulgin (=“Tamara”, prototype of “Mary/Mashen’ka”) died in 1967. She married a Cheka officer after 1917. She hardly has anything to do with Georgia proper, other than her dark complexion (which could be rather Tatar than Georgian).
 
2.       Pechorin (“The hero of our times”) died not in Caucasus but in neighboring Persia, now Iran (following Griboedov, who was, incidentally, married to Nina Chavchavazde, a Georgian noble). How symbolic for past and future heroes of OUR times.
 
Any ethnic generalizations are futile; are there ‘nations’ of poets or thieves?
Napoleon was not even French.  Pushkin was an “African-Russian” (although I never seen this term used by Pushkinists).  
 
Victor Fet
 

Subject:
Re: [NABOKV-L] REPLY re VN, Agression, Georga
From:
"jansymello" <jansy@aetern.us>
Date:
Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:00:09 -0300
To:
"Vladimir Nabokov Forum" <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>

Victor Fet: a very recognizable is Extremist coup in Zembla supported by its big eastern neighbor (whatever our opinion of decadent Zemblan monarchy).
Charles Nicol: [...] The most important thing in Nabokov's imaginary view might be whether his first love, Tamara, is still alive in Georgia after all those years[...]
I suspect that unfortunately it would not be much more difficult to figure out how he would view Bush's outrageous war on the sovereign state of Iraq, a view which probably would have been far more benign and pro-Bush than my own, but that's precisely the kind of question it's pointless for us to raise...
 
JMWhen I read Fet's remark about the coup against King Charles supported by a"big eastern neighbor",  I noticed VN'd emphasis on "eastern".
One is thereby invited away from considerations such as, for example, what happened with Reza Pahlavi's tradicitional monarchy and "the sovereign state of Iraq".
Nevertheless in ADA there are peculiar "tesselated" indications from plane and ocean-liner voyages,Vinelander and ancient maps, train trips from the northern to the southern hemispheres. There is not only the ancient explorerer's east-west route (echoed in uncle Dan's meridian anti-clockwise travels), but an indication of  skin-traders' search of a shorter link bt. Asia and Alaska and in Ada's passionate message to Van from the very tip of Patagonia...Therefore I think we may be justified in considering VN's more "global views".
 
Besides, a thread running through Bend Sinister and Pale Fire brings up lost "Atlantis"  and other "lost lands", and  I cannot avoid thinking about ADA's sunken city of Kitezh and its valiant legend.
New geographies...And then, rather unexpectedly a message  about "Boriska—boy from Mars" [ a specially gifted boy  born on January 11, 1996 who livesin Zhirinovsk,Volgograd, Russia.] reached me today. I found more information about this child's "wonderful country Lemuria, life of which he knew in details since he happened to descend there from Mars", at online Pravda [english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/12257_Martian.html].
Since I recently came across a reference to Ada's anti-terran amber iris and the word "lemurian", I  decided to check further VN's novel.

The eyes. Ada’s dark brown eyes. What (Ada asks) are eyes anyway? Two holes in the mask of life. What (she asks) would they mean to a creature from another corpuscle or milk bubble whose organ of sight was (say) an internal parasite resembling the written word ‘deified’? What, indeed, would a pair of beautiful (human, lemurian, owlish) eyes mean to anybody if found lying on the seat of a taxi? Yet I have to describe yours. The iris: black brown with amber specks or spokes placed around the serious pupil in a dial arrangement of identical hours. The eyelids: sort of pleaty, v skladochku (rhyming in Russian with the diminutive of her name in the accusative case). Eye shape: languorous. The procuress in Wicklow, on that satanic night of black sleet, at the most tragic and almost fatal point of my life (Van, thank goodness, is ninety now — in Ada’s hand) dwelt with peculiar force on the ‘long eyes’ of her pathetic and adorable grandchild. How I used to seek, with what tenacious anguish, traces and tokens of my unforgettable love in all the brothels of the world!
 
An amazing paragraph, apparently written by ninety year old Van, who addresses Ada directly and in  which she conspicuously is shown to intervene. Internet resources, mainly Wikipedia, made me travel from Darwinism,  tectonic plates to Madame Blavatsky's Lemuria and Sci-Fi novels*, with a stop at Darkbloom's notes about p.10. Lake Kitezh: allusion to the legendary town of Kitezh which shines at the bottom of a lake in a Russian fairy tale.
In ADA we find Lakeview hospital, different lakeviews,swans and balconies and even a lake Van [Van managed to sleep soundly, the only reaction on the part of his dormant mind being the dream image of an aquatic peacock, slowly sinking before somersaulting like a diving grebe, near the shore of the lake bearing his name in the ancient kingdom of Arrowroot].
 
 
 
 
 
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* Wiki Excerpts:
The acceptance of Darwinism led scientists to seek to trace the diffusion of species from their points of evolutionary origin[...]. After gaining some acceptance within the scientific community, the concept of Lemuria began to appear [...]. Ernst Haeckel, a German Darwinian taxonomist, proposed Lemuria as an explanation for the absence of "missing link" fossil records. According to another source, Haeckel put forward this thesis prior to Sclater (but without using the name 'Lemuria')[...]Other scientists hypothesized that Lemuria had extended across parts of the Pacific oceans, seeking to explain distributions of species across Asia and the Americas.The Lemuria theory disappeared completely from conventional scientific consideration after the theories of plate tectonics and continental drift were accepted by the larger scientific community
Lemuria entered the lexicon of the Occult through the works of Madame Helena Blavatsky, who claimed in the 1880s to have been shown an ancient, pre-Atlantean Book of Dzyan by the Mahatmas. According to L. Sprague de Camp, Blavatsky was influenced by other writers on the theme of Lost Continents, notably Ignatius L. Donnelly, American cult leader Thomas Lake Harris and the French writer Louis Jacolliot.[...]One of the most elaborate accounts of lost continents was given by the later theosophical author William Scott Elliott[...] In 1896, in "The Story of Atlantis & The Lost Lemuria", he described the continent of Lemuria as stretching from the east coast of Africa across the Indian and the Pacific Oceans.James Bramwell described Lemuria in his book, Lost Atlantis, as “a continent that occupied a large part of what is now the South Pacific Ocean.”. Quoting Story of Atlantis, by William Scott-Elliott; “Atlantis, according to Scott-Elliott’s first map, which shows it 1,000,000 years ago, extended ‘from a point a few degrees east of Iceland to about the site now occupied by Rio de Janeiro in South America. Embracing Texas and the Gulf of Mexico, the Southern and Eastern states of America, up to and including Labrador, it stretched across the ocean to our own islands, - Scotland and Ireland… embraced Brazil and the whole stretch of ocean across to the African Gold Coast.” [...] According to Bramwell, Lemurians are the ascendants of the Altlanteans, who survived the period “of the general racial decadence which affected the Lemurians in the last stages of their evolution.” >From “a select division of” the Atlanteans - after their promotion to decadence - Bramwell claims the Aryan race arose. “Lemurians, Atlanteans, and Aryans are root-races of humanity,” according to Bramwell.
 
[...] James Churchward, another prolific writer on the theme of lost lands, identified Lemuria with Mu.In 1894, Frederick Spencer Oliver published A Dweller on Two Planets, which claimed that survivors from a sunken continent called Lemuria were living in or on Mount Shasta in northern California[...].This belief has been repeated by such individuals as the cultist Guy Warren Ballard in the 1930s who formed the I AM Foundation[...]Popular novels have also repeated the belief that Lemurians inhabit Mount Shasta. Among such novels, Vin Smith's The Outrageous Views of Professor Fogelman links Lemurians to Ancient Egypt, UFOs and a method of travel called vortex portals--essentially a pathway to sacred places on Earth as well as points unknown in the universe.In Robert A. Heinlein's short story "Lost Legacy", three ordinary people rediscover innate human psychic abilities[...] This history includes the rise and fall of the lost empire Mu, due to arrogance and the pursuit of power rather than enlightenment. The fall of Mu is said to have doomed humanity to the current 'Dark Age', in which the evil hidden elites forcefully maintain the ignorance of the masses.





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