Stan Kelly-Bootle wrote:

I’ve just checked by kicking a nearby BRICK (but I’m mixing my philosophers!)

This was one of the highly annoying Johnsonian gestures I had in mind: simultaneously right and wrong. Some minds think alike.

Stan Kelly-Bootle also wrote:

Re-Anglo-Saxon: Charles protests far too much and without due process, methinks, against the use of the old term OLD ENGLISH to describe the vernacular Germanic language[s] prevalent in Anglo-Saxon England between about 600 --1100 CE.

Quote: “my conclusion has been that Anglo-Saxon is not "Old English", any more than Latin is "Old Italian", or "Old Spanish", or "Old Portuguese", or "Old Roumanian". The use of "Old English" by modern lexicographers is tantamount to the anticipated collective decision of future lexicographers, five hundred years hence, to describe the language of Shakespeare and the Elizabethans as "Old American".”

See here: http://www.cichw.net/SSAS.htm

Stan Kelly-Bootle also wrote:

Charles: worth knowing the history/controversy/texts of the Q1, Q2 and Folio variants before making firm interpretations.

Many thanks for your solicitous advice. I was aware of the variant you quote. Nothing I say is firm, but always prefaced by imho, implying a present, most probably temporary opinion, and subject to amiable correction and improvement. All experience is an arch wherethrough gleams the untravelled world. (A poem, imho). As a chess-player, I was impressed by Einstein’s remark on the mental flexibility of chess-players. The only exception is the chess-player who rarely if ever loses, becomes undefeated champion, and who then tends to go mad and think himself God. That’s my defence, anyway.

Carolyn wrote, re Fitzgerald’s Khayyam:

Isn't this one instance in which "profanation of the dead" might not apply? Or does it? The Fitzgerald  is certainly a metamorphosis of some sort. I am rather fond of it and though it's hard to imagine, I wonder if I should prefer the original?

At an early stage in my aimless, wondering life I taught EFL for a few months at the National University of Iran, 1962-64. An Iranian (Jewish-Iranian) student once told me that Fitzgerald’s poem (it’s a poem, imho) was “better” than Khayyam’s quatrains. In fact, Fitzgerald made something else of his material. I wouldn’t call it profanation in his case, but I would in most of Pound’s cases.

A.Bouazza wrote:

The discussion of Hamlet by Stephen Dedalus where he "proves by algebra that Shakespeare's ghost is Hamlet's grandfather" is of course in ULYSSES, the famous library scene Chapter 9.

Of course! Many thanks. It can also be shown, by comparing folk-lores, that William Tell was Hamlet’s father, although I can’t remember exactly how this conclusion is reached. It is something to do with Horwendil, who was an archer and a dab hand at apple-shooting, and how he then metamorphoses into Hamlet pere. Anyway, it seems Updike had a handle on this theory, or something akin to it. See here:

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/u/updike-gertrude.html?_r=1&oref=slogin   

and/or here:

http://www.ealdriht.org/earendel.html

I have just been told, off-list, that one of my recent (too-frequent, and I really must soon desist) posts "sounded rather snobby about American lit."  I hope someone in agreement with this charge will dilate on it, so that I may mount whatever defence I can to whatever specific sins I am perceived to have committed. And to the combat, Loo or Whist, lead on. Not poetry, imho.

Charles

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