AB wrote:
I feel so strong a
disagreement with some of the following that my first instinct is to suspect
that I misunderstood it.
Andrew’s response is exhilarating:
is the forum really moving from the library to the debating hall? Nothing
concentrates the mind better in the lists than to have an opponent charge down
at one, lance at the ready --- as the Doctor almost observed. For a very long
time now I’ve been bemused by the quip (attributed variously to Wilde, Shaw, Bertrand Russell, Dylan
Thomas and Winston Churchill) about the language dividing the English-speaking
shores, and maybe I’ll gain a better understanding by being forced to
concentrate here. I think it has some application when comparing VN’s writing
style and thought patterns with US contemporaries.
Verbosity.
In mind I mainly had the C20th, but
AB’s instance of Dickens and his verbal diarrhoea seems ill-chosen in any case.
In my experience, whenever this has come up it has always been pointed out that
Dickens was a penny-a-liner for much of his time, and the more he wrote the more
he was paid. In fact, he seems to have partially succeeded in making a virtue of
his need to earn. Something of the same might be true of
Scott.
Vic Perry
wrote:
It doesn't boil down
to some eternal or universal fault.
Victorians are characterized by prolixity. Schizophrenics are characterized by prolixity. The concise and elliptical writer
probably used to trust the reader more. No, omit that craven
"probably."
These pertinent points agreeably put
the question into historical context. American English and English English had
not even begun to separate when Fielding was writing. He may have used many
words, but Fielding is always a page-turner, since the reader is keen to know
what happened next to Tom Jones on his picaresque adventures, in spite of the
book’s famous long digression, which is a subject constantly discussed, in my
experience. But even in those far-off days Pope was saying that brevity is the
soul of wit.
I suspect the linguistic division
may justifiably be said to have started with the Declaration of Independence.
Since having recently given this seminal document fairly close attention, I have
concluded that it is little more than splendid political rhetoric, and therefore
profoundly and reprehensibly dishonest. (Gasps of outrage).
However, the divergence by no means
happened overnight. Both prolixity and concise ellipsis are markedly present in
William Blake; but I would say that the extraordinary rantings of his prophetic
books found far less favour in
Perhaps no-one will see any link
between this line of argument and comparative Anglo-American lit crit. I’ll move
on to Andrew’s next points.
The Adjective.
Adjectives, as Humpty noted, are
weak, malleable words. I accept AB’s contention that they have their uses.
However, they tend to over-use, and can very rapidly lose their power. It is
almost axiomatic that they should be used sparingly, and be positioned with
great care, especially in poetry. Carroll saw this, in his advice to the budding
poet:
“……………. there are
epithets
That suit with any word
--
Of these, 'wild,' 'lonely,' 'weary,'
'strange,'
Are much to be
preferred."
"And will it do, O will it
do
To take them in a lump
--
As 'the wild man went his weary
way
To a strange and lonely
pump'?"
"Nay, nay! You must not
hastily
To such conclusions
jump.”
In 1893 R.L.Stevenson (!) wrote to
Henry James (!):
My two aims may be described as –
1st. War to the adjective. 2nd. Death to the optic nerve.
AB wrote:
As for Mr. Twigg’s
three versions of the lines from PF, here we have excellent proof ……. of how, in
poetry, less is often not only not more , it is often even less
than it may seem, and certainly less than one needs.
…………..
Version #2, of course, needs
little discussion. It is merely a lessen in how one turns poetry into
doggerel.
Version #3 wasn’t Mr Twigg’s, of
course, but no matter; it isn’t discussed. I am bound to disagree with the
statement that less is not more: the pithier the point, the greater the punch,
when it comes to language. Nouns and verbs are the bone and muscle: adjectives
merely modify. Pope’s use of adjectives is worth a look. I concede,
nevertheless, that VN took pleasure in adjectives, and, when he wasn’t being
Shade, employed them effectively. Who knows what wages he paid them? I now feel too weary to continue
pumping.
I take it AB’s allusion to the
curious plan of instruction adopted
by the masters at the academy attended by the Gryphon and the Mock Turtle was
deliberate, and applaud.
Charles