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Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] MR re: American v. European
MR writes: both verbose and
concise writers appear in great, if not equal, numbers everywhere...It may be
more productive to talk about prolixity as it relates
to literary traditions,
which span nationalities... it isn't hard to see the ghost of Romanticism in
many of the more indulgent writers (Ginsberg, Pynchon, John Irving, Graham
Swift, Charles Kinbote) while Realism/Naturalism can still be seen as holding
sway in others (Carver, Elizabeth Bishop, Seamus Heaney, Tobias Wolff, John
Shade). Nabokov's sensibility always seems uniquely eastern European to me...
these writers still lean a bit on the Romantic tradition, but the hardship of
their political and social situation doesn't allow them to be as indulgent of
that tradition as either Brits or Americans.
JM: You employed the word "indulgent" twice, once to
describe verbose early modern romantics (such as Kinbote) and next, to
contrast writers suffering under political stress and those Brits and
Americans inclinded to democratic prolixity and exuberance. Indulgence
may also be considered from the stand-point of individual symptoms, as a way of
both gaining ascendancy and losing a battle against obsessive neurosis or,
according the old-fashioned expression, "temperament". There certainly will
be readers that fall into this category and so garantee their
success.
Verbosity, when opposed to concision and realism ( did you
put T.S.Eliot close to John Shade under this item? Did you approach VN and
Kinbote in the other?), indeed, toils under no specific nationality or
epoch, but may be more inhibited under various cultural
pressures.
MR adds:I don't imagine VN had much
tolerance for the French Surrealists, but some of the revolutionary spirit of
Surrealism, particularly as it relates to the subversion of oppressive order,
obtains in VN's work.
JM: Surrealists, without abandoning narcisisstic gratifications,
nevertheless gave up the tag of authorship ( usually a kind of Godly
central point that, in infinity, is to be found in all places, as in SB's
reference), recognizing "automatic writing" and the unconscious.
Nevertheless, I don't think that Nabokov's subversion, or works
about oppressed individuals is comparable to the aims of
the surrealists.