In a message dated 11/21/2007 8:32:24 PM Central Standard Time, jansy@AETERN.US writes:

R S Gwynn wrote: Shade may have liked apples better in childhood (which he's describing here) than he did as an adult.
 
JM: Apples are fortresses when one has to wear dentures, but the previous mention of vegetables and salads by Kinbote suggests a different kind of rejection on the part of Shade.
I had never considered until now, with the same clarity as yours, that in the first verses of Canto I JS was already describing his childhood.
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VN was also wearing dentures by this time, I believe.

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