Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:27:29 -0500
From: suellen.stringer-hye@VANDERBILT.EDU
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] QUERY: Lolita's subjectivity and America
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Hi Matt,
I think this is the line from your original post that I differ with
I do not think it is possible to know or to guess who the actual (fictional) Dolores Haze might be, though we know that she is not the girl Humbert gives himself and, by extension, us.
It is not just Humbert but rather Nabokov who gives us a hidden but quite vivid portrait of Dolores Haze. With every successive reading of the book, increasingly more of her character is revealed and again not just in the narrative but in interweavings of language and theme, so that now I feel she stands on her own and I DO know who the actual (fictional) Dolores Haze is or at least as well as I know who the fictional HH is. I don’t think we glimpse her for a moment; she seems ever present to me. Nabokov was able to accomplish all this without providing direct access to her inner life but pointing to it in many subtle ways. Is the pang of sorrow that you speak of perhaps because we know so much about her rather than that we know so little?
---Suellen
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Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] QUERY: Lolita's subjectivity and America
Suellen,
I don't disagree with your thoughts below. The very fact--as Vera pointed out--that Dolores seems daily to be in tears (or on the verge of them) is enough--along with the other details you mention--to help us see that there is another girl beneath Humbert's mannequin. My response was to the question of whether we are able to access her subjectivity. It seems to me that the pang of sorrow that throbs through the book is largely produced by the realization that there is a Dolores in there whom we will never be able to reach. We glimpse her for a moment, but she is gone, replaced, before we can save her.
Best,
Matt
>>> On 4/15/2008 at 12:21 PM, in message <63566160FBD1BE43873B5A100A4222DF047597C1@mailbe17.email.Vanderbilt.edu>, "Stringer-Hye, Suellen" <suellen.stringer-hye@VANDERBILT.EDU> wrote:I respectfully disagree with this conclusion. While it is true that Humbert's first person narrative does create an illusory Lolita, the intricate patternings and images underlying that prose, reveal quite a bit about Dolores Haze, her real relationship with her mother, the loss of her brother and father, her teenage dreams and her adult difficulties. This seems to me Nabokov's extraordinary achievement in Lolita--- and one that is often overlooked.
Suellen Stringer-Hye
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Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] QUERY: Lolita's subjectivity and America
Barrie asked: "What are the best writings, if any, on what it's like to be Lolita, or how someone becomes Lolita? Whose imagination imagines what Lolita is really like -- her subjectivity?"
MR: Most of the criticism I have encountered focuses on Humbert's "solipsizing" of Lolita. She has no subjectivity that we can access, since the Lolita we are given is, as Humbert says, "not she, but my own creation, another, fanciful Lolita--perhaps, more real than Lolita; overlapping, encasing her; floating between me and her, and having no will, no consciousness--indeed, no life of her own" (62 AnL). Leland de la Durantaye, in his excellent, very readable book Style is Matter: The Moral Art of Vladimir Nabokov, does a great job unpacking all of the repercussions (for Humbert and for us) of this deeply flawed imaginative act. As he puts it, Humbert "can only 'enjoy in peace' his vicious circle of paradise if the real little girl he is do desperately mistreating does not too violently interpose herself--and so he decides to 'firmly ignore' her in favor of the 'phantasm' first formed on this fateful Sunday [the davenport scene]" ( 72-73). I do not think it is possible to know or to guess who the actual (fictional) Dolores Haze might be, though we know that she is not the girl Humbert gives himself and, by extension, us.
Matt Roth
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