Anthony Stadlen writes (in answer to Jerry Friedman and Jansy): While what Jansy says has its own validity, I do think that it is not "psychologically strange" that someone "deluded" gives hints as to the "reality" from which his "delusion" is an escape. After all, it is only such hints that justify those who argue, as Sartre and others (including myself) do, that "delusions" are a form of "bad faith", intentional acting on one's own consciousness, a game that the person is playing with his consciousness and his relation to others, rather than a kind of accident afflicting the person from "outside", or from "the brain", etc. So, in this respect, it seems to me that VN is quite "realistic" and insightful.  
 
Jerry Friedman writes: Especially after reading Matt Roth's comments, I'd like to ask Anthony Stadlen and anyone else who might know: Was I right in suspecting that Kinbote's mentions of Botkin are "psychologically strange"?  Or are people with such delusions known to refer to their original selves, not as overtly the same person, but revealing that they still know of some connection?
 
JM:In my opinion, we run the risk of deviating into another set of tracks when we plan to investigate psychological  facts and "realities" following Nabokov's inventiveness and satirical turn of mind.  
What could be the answer for what's "psychologically strange" in Kinbote's reference to Botkin, outside of the boundaries of Nabokov's novel? The Index entry that introduces Botkin and the text from CK's note n.247 ( am I mistaken to assume that Botkin has only made another appearance  - extra-textually?) is necessary to the novelist himself. It serves him to add a fundamental information, but it leaves a mark that is similar to a navel, no longer functional but revelatory and non-deletable. 
 
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In a message dated 04/09/2010 22:29:55 GMT Daylight Time, nabokv-l@UTK.EDU writes:

Subject:
Re: [NABOKV-L] THOUGHTS re: Botkin
From:
Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
Date:
Sat, 4 Sep 2010 16:19:22 -0300
To:
Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>

 
Jerry Friedman writes: Especially after reading Matt Roth's comments, I'd like to ask Anthony Stadlen and anyone else who might know: Was I right in suspecting that Kinbote's mentions of Botkin are "psychologically strange"?  Or are people with such delusions known to refer to their original selves, not as overtly the same person, but revealing that they still know of some connection?
 
JM:In my opinion, we run the risk of deviating into another set of tracks when we plan to investigate psychological  facts and "realities" following Nabokov's inventiveness and satirical turn of mind.  
What could be the answer for what's "psychologically strange" in Kinbote's reference to Botkin, outside of the boundaries of Nabokov's novel? The Index entry that introduces Botkin and the text from CK's note n.247 ( am I mistaken to assume that Botkin has only made another appearance  - extra-textually?) is necessary to the novelist himself. It serves him to add a fundamental information, but it leaves a mark that is similar to a navel, no longer functional but revelatory and non-deletable. 
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