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From: "Beau Shaw" <bs499@nyu.edu>
To: "Vladimir Nabokov Forum" <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pale Fire, the poem
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> I don't think your opinion of Pale Fire (the poem) should be "swayed" by
our
> arguments! One does not "appreciate" literature (or anything for that
> matter, I suppose) by being instructed that it's good or not. Sapere aude
> :)Personally, on repeated readings, it strikes me as more and more
> beautiful, and complex. -Beau Shaw
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: D. Barton Johnson <chtodel@cox.net>
> To: <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:05 PM
> Subject: Fw: Pale Fire, the poem
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
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> > lines) ------------------
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Is the poem in the novel, Pale Fire, supposed to be a demonstration of
> > > poetic genuis? Is the poem itself a represntation of Shade's
> straitforward
> > > style, lacking in genuis, and just another indication of Kinbote's
> > madness?
> > > I've discussed this before (not here) to no avail. Basically what I'm
> > asking
> > > is this: Did Nabokov himself think the poem Pale Fire was a work of
> > genius?
> > >
> > > I've read (references elude me now - but something tells me it was
Boyd,
> > > though not sure) that Pale Fire was actually the best poetry Nabokov
> could
> > > write. And as said in Strong Opinions, it was the most trouble he's
ever
> > had
> > > with a piece of writing. I'm not very good at judging poetry (almost
> never
> > > reading it) and certainly not ones this long (a novel in verse?) can
> only
> > > give an invalid opinion here. Plae Fire strikes me as somewhat
> > typical -the
> > > style, the rhyming scheem- it's been done many times before. This is
> > > something not present is Nabokov's novels (though he writes very
> > poetical).
> > > As you have read, my opinion is weak and can easily be swayed with the
> > right
> > > arguments. This novel is so beautiful.
> > > Dane Gill
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
From: "Beau Shaw" <bs499@nyu.edu>
To: "Vladimir Nabokov Forum" <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pale Fire, the poem
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> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (53
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> I don't think your opinion of Pale Fire (the poem) should be "swayed" by
our
> arguments! One does not "appreciate" literature (or anything for that
> matter, I suppose) by being instructed that it's good or not. Sapere aude
> :)Personally, on repeated readings, it strikes me as more and more
> beautiful, and complex. -Beau Shaw
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: D. Barton Johnson <chtodel@cox.net>
> To: <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:05 PM
> Subject: Fw: Pale Fire, the poem
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
> > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (24
> > lines) ------------------
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Is the poem in the novel, Pale Fire, supposed to be a demonstration of
> > > poetic genuis? Is the poem itself a represntation of Shade's
> straitforward
> > > style, lacking in genuis, and just another indication of Kinbote's
> > madness?
> > > I've discussed this before (not here) to no avail. Basically what I'm
> > asking
> > > is this: Did Nabokov himself think the poem Pale Fire was a work of
> > genius?
> > >
> > > I've read (references elude me now - but something tells me it was
Boyd,
> > > though not sure) that Pale Fire was actually the best poetry Nabokov
> could
> > > write. And as said in Strong Opinions, it was the most trouble he's
ever
> > had
> > > with a piece of writing. I'm not very good at judging poetry (almost
> never
> > > reading it) and certainly not ones this long (a novel in verse?) can
> only
> > > give an invalid opinion here. Plae Fire strikes me as somewhat
> > typical -the
> > > style, the rhyming scheem- it's been done many times before. This is
> > > something not present is Nabokov's novels (though he writes very
> > poetical).
> > > As you have read, my opinion is weak and can easily be swayed with the
> > right
> > > arguments. This novel is so beautiful.
> > > Dane Gill
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
>