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No, Humbert's father's hotel is MIRANA.
Anthony Stadlen
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In a message dated 02/03/2013 15:36:00 GMT Standard Time,
koen_vanherwegen@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
What about Miranda? (the Tempest is mentionned somewehere in Pnin as a
place called Tempest Point and Miranda is also the name of the hotel of
Humbert Humberts father)
No clue though to what that would suggest
Koen Vanherwegen
____________________________________
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 00:07:08 -0500
From: mbutterfly549@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Pnin's own Vladimir?
To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
it could myroslava, and the diminutive could be mira or slava, or
lubomira, and the diminutive could be mira or luba, etc, etc, these slavs love
diminutives....vladimir goes to volodya, vova, or vo, could be mirko too....i
have a son sviatoslav, who is called, svieti, slavko, slav, or whatever...my
michael volodimir(we are Ukrainian) is vovchick, vo or volodya at
home.....nicholas goes to mykolchik, mykola, kolia, or kolchik hard in translating
a novel.....all the diminutives make sense to slavs, but not anglophones.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Kunin <chaiselongue@ATT.NET>
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Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Pnin's own Vladimir?
Thank you, Mary. Belochkin - of course. But what longer name is Mire/Mira
short for? Mirabelle? Are you thinking of the first love in Russia?
I wonder if antisemitism & philo-Semitism (a sort of anti-shiksa-appeal)
didn't play a role in VN's attraction to Vera Slonim? Perhaps he would never
have married his first love, or perhaps she would never have married the
son of a 'Jew lover' like Nabokov pere?
By the way, for the remarkable history of philojudaism in Britain, read
Barbara Tuchman's The Bible and the Sword.
Carolyn
____________________________________
From: Mary H. Efremov <_mbutterfly549@AOL.COM_
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Sent: Wed, February 27, 2013 7:00:18 PM
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Pnin's own Vladimir?
mira belochkin hides a piece of the squirrel motif, and mire is likely a
diminutive from a longer name, it was a tender love he cherished his whole
life.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 1:18 pm
Subject: [NABOKV-L] Pnin's own Vladimir?
To the List Members,
I think perhaps Pnin is my favorite Nabokov - character and novel.
Deceptively simple, devious and beautiful. Victor is a close second. Perhaps being
female, I prefer masculine characters.
That having been said, let me also say that the relationship between Pnin
and Miss Belkina (her first name escapes me) may very well be similar to
that between Vladimir and Vera. Although you wouldn't think so.
That aside, I recently acquired Nabokov's own copy of Pnin - at least that
is what it appears to me to be. The inscription reads:
Vladimir Nabokov
March 1957
Simpson Hall
Is there a Simpson Hall at Waindell, I mean, Wellesley?
Carolyn
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In a message dated 02/03/2013 15:36:00 GMT Standard Time,
koen_vanherwegen@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
What about Miranda? (the Tempest is mentionned somewehere in Pnin as a
place called Tempest Point and Miranda is also the name of the hotel of
Humbert Humberts father)
No clue though to what that would suggest
Koen Vanherwegen
____________________________________
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 00:07:08 -0500
From: mbutterfly549@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Pnin's own Vladimir?
To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
it could myroslava, and the diminutive could be mira or slava, or
lubomira, and the diminutive could be mira or luba, etc, etc, these slavs love
diminutives....vladimir goes to volodya, vova, or vo, could be mirko too....i
have a son sviatoslav, who is called, svieti, slavko, slav, or whatever...my
michael volodimir(we are Ukrainian) is vovchick, vo or volodya at
home.....nicholas goes to mykolchik, mykola, kolia, or kolchik hard in translating
a novel.....all the diminutives make sense to slavs, but not anglophones.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Kunin <chaiselongue@ATT.NET>
To: NABOKV-L <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Pnin's own Vladimir?
Thank you, Mary. Belochkin - of course. But what longer name is Mire/Mira
short for? Mirabelle? Are you thinking of the first love in Russia?
I wonder if antisemitism & philo-Semitism (a sort of anti-shiksa-appeal)
didn't play a role in VN's attraction to Vera Slonim? Perhaps he would never
have married his first love, or perhaps she would never have married the
son of a 'Jew lover' like Nabokov pere?
By the way, for the remarkable history of philojudaism in Britain, read
Barbara Tuchman's The Bible and the Sword.
Carolyn
____________________________________
From: Mary H. Efremov <_mbutterfly549@AOL.COM_
(mailto:mbutterfly549@AOL.COM) >
To: _NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU_ (mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU)
Sent: Wed, February 27, 2013 7:00:18 PM
Subject: Re: [NABOKV-L] Pnin's own Vladimir?
mira belochkin hides a piece of the squirrel motif, and mire is likely a
diminutive from a longer name, it was a tender love he cherished his whole
life.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Kunin <_chaiselongue@ATT.NET_ (mailto:chaiselongue@ATT.NET) >
To: NABOKV-L <_NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU_
(mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU) >
Sent: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 1:18 pm
Subject: [NABOKV-L] Pnin's own Vladimir?
To the List Members,
I think perhaps Pnin is my favorite Nabokov - character and novel.
Deceptively simple, devious and beautiful. Victor is a close second. Perhaps being
female, I prefer masculine characters.
That having been said, let me also say that the relationship between Pnin
and Miss Belkina (her first name escapes me) may very well be similar to
that between Vladimir and Vera. Although you wouldn't think so.
That aside, I recently acquired Nabokov's own copy of Pnin - at least that
is what it appears to me to be. The inscription reads:
Vladimir Nabokov
March 1957
Simpson Hall
Is there a Simpson Hall at Waindell, I mean, Wellesley?
Carolyn
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