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The viewer/reader/listener takes an eminently subjective position on any
work of art; I liked SKB's comment about not forgetting the
Holocaust-deniers, etc., and I appreciate your comments questioning the
images' posting to this list, but to me these photos do not deserve any
attempts to banish them from memory. Somehow I think the photographer would
agree.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Jansy <jansy@aetern.us> wrote:
> *Steve Norquist*: The color stills communicate the tragedy, especially
> the deluded enthusiastic youngsters unaware of their own doom, in ways old
> History Channel footage and other media do not. By the old adage about a
> picture being "worth" 1000 words, these are at least a short novel.
>
> *JM*: Thanks for the indirect correction ("enthusiastic").
>
> Images are double-edged and the short-novel you mention has yet to be
> written (According to novelist John Fowles "images are eminently
> tyrannical." - unfortunately I cannot remember where he said that).
> VN once stated: "Down, Plato, clown, good dog. An image depends on
> the power of association, and association is supplied and prompted
> by memory...When we speak of a vivid individual recollection we are paying a
> compliment not to our capacity of retention but to Mnemosyne's
> mysterious foresight in having stored up this or that element which
> creative imagination may want to use when combining it with later
> recollections and inventions. In this sense, both memory and imagination are
> a negation of time." (the present quote, omitting Fido, came from the
> internet, related to Nabokov's interview. (06) Wisconsin Studies [1967] -
> www.kulichki.com/moshkow/.../Inter06.txt - ) *
>
> * Actually the sentence I was looking for (also related to Plato's
> Republic, I suppose, following another comment in S.O) is:
> "*I detest Plato, I loathe Lacedaemon and all Perfect States*. I weigh 195
> pounds." ( from The Nabokov-Wilson Letters: Correspondence between
> Vladimir Nabokov and Edmund Wilson, 1940-1971, in a dramatic dialogue
> adapted by Terry Quinn from the texts of the collected letters Issue 157,
> Winter 2000, Paris Review. I have no access to the book (SO) right now, only
> internet unreliable or variant sources!
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work of art; I liked SKB's comment about not forgetting the
Holocaust-deniers, etc., and I appreciate your comments questioning the
images' posting to this list, but to me these photos do not deserve any
attempts to banish them from memory. Somehow I think the photographer would
agree.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Jansy <jansy@aetern.us> wrote:
> *Steve Norquist*: The color stills communicate the tragedy, especially
> the deluded enthusiastic youngsters unaware of their own doom, in ways old
> History Channel footage and other media do not. By the old adage about a
> picture being "worth" 1000 words, these are at least a short novel.
>
> *JM*: Thanks for the indirect correction ("enthusiastic").
>
> Images are double-edged and the short-novel you mention has yet to be
> written (According to novelist John Fowles "images are eminently
> tyrannical." - unfortunately I cannot remember where he said that).
> VN once stated: "Down, Plato, clown, good dog. An image depends on
> the power of association, and association is supplied and prompted
> by memory...When we speak of a vivid individual recollection we are paying a
> compliment not to our capacity of retention but to Mnemosyne's
> mysterious foresight in having stored up this or that element which
> creative imagination may want to use when combining it with later
> recollections and inventions. In this sense, both memory and imagination are
> a negation of time." (the present quote, omitting Fido, came from the
> internet, related to Nabokov's interview. (06) Wisconsin Studies [1967] -
> www.kulichki.com/moshkow/.../Inter06.txt - ) *
>
> * Actually the sentence I was looking for (also related to Plato's
> Republic, I suppose, following another comment in S.O) is:
> "*I detest Plato, I loathe Lacedaemon and all Perfect States*. I weigh 195
> pounds." ( from The Nabokov-Wilson Letters: Correspondence between
> Vladimir Nabokov and Edmund Wilson, 1940-1971, in a dramatic dialogue
> adapted by Terry Quinn from the texts of the collected letters Issue 157,
> Winter 2000, Paris Review. I have no access to the book (SO) right now, only
> internet unreliable or variant sources!
> Search the archive<http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:listserv.ucsb.edu&HL=en> Contact
> the Editors <nabokv-l@utk.edu,nabokv-l@holycross.edu> Visit "Nabokov
> Online Journal" <http://www.nabokovonline.com> Visit Zembla<http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/zembla.htm> View
> Nabokv-L Policies <http://web.utk.edu/%7Esblackwe/EDNote.htm> Manage
> subscription options <http://listserv.ucsb.edu/>
>
> All private editorial communications, without exception, are read by both
> co-editors.
>
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