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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:26:04 -0300
From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
Reply-To: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: a curious image. Strawberries & tongues in VN
To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum Dear List and Jeff,
I agree with Jeff´s observation concerning the images of strawberry/tongue,
presented by VN in ADA, as being more tactile than visual.
The photographic image surprised me because it was unexpected. A tongue is
usually less red and more discolored, like VN´s "boiled strawberry" ( the
vegetable becomes pink-purplish-grey when boiled, doesn´t it? ).
But then, to whose eye is the refraction in a drop of water represented on a
butterfly´s wing addressed? Perhaps the visual aspect, although not purposefuly
intended by VN for the strawberry/tongue approximation, pertains to the same
kind of enchantment.
Jansy
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald B. Johnson
To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: a curious image. Strawberries & tongues in VN
EDNOTE. If memory does not fail me, the article cited is by Jeff Edmunds,
a.k.a.
The Wizard of Zembla.
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:19:41 -0400
From: Jeff Edmunds <jhe2@psulias.psu.edu>
Reply-To: Jeff Edmunds <jhe2@psulias.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Fw: a curious image
To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum
From Jeff Edmunds <jhe2@psulias.psu.edu>:
For me the comparison of tongue to hot boiled strawberry is more tactile
than visual, despite the similarities in size, color, and, as Jansy
demonstrates with the image she sent to the list, shape. After all, in
kissing, neither party sharing the tongue can see it, but both are keenly
aware of its texture.
Footnote 10 of an ancient article on _Korol', dama, valet_ (KDV) and _King
Queen Knave_ (KQK) reads:
The strawberry/tongue relationship may have bled into the English version
of KDV from _Ada_, which Nabokov was composing at the same time he was
revising KQK. In Chapter 17, Van and Ada are exchanging sloppy kisses: "'I
can lend you my tongue,' she said, and did. A large boiled strawberry,
still very hot."
The passage in the text of the article that refers to this footnote, which
claims that "In more than one instance VN's revamping of _KDV_ seems
overdone," cites as one example: "the simple and evocative 'frukt' whose
lack at the station's sandwich stall Dreier bemoans [in the Russian
version] is transformed into the absurdly overwrought 'nice, plump, lumpy,
glossy red strawberries positively crying to be bitten into, all their
achenes proclaiming their affinity with one's own tongue's papillae."
This passage of _KQK_ suggests to me that the origin and aptness of
Nabokov's tongue/hot boiled strawberry metaphor is more tactile than
visual, but of course as Jansy rightly points out, visually the metaphor
works deftly.
At 11:00 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:jansy@aetern.us>Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello
>To: <mailto:chtodel@cox.net>don barton johnson
>Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:26 PM
>Subject: a curious image
>
>Dear Don,
>
>Besides synesthesia, VN´s imagetic precision is astounding by the way he
>condensed different informations.
>I had always thought that the image of Ada´s tongue as hot and soft like a
>strawbery was sufficiently precise:
>"'I can lend you my tongue,' she said, and did.A large boiled strawberry,
>still very hot. He sucked it in as far as it would go. He held her close
>and lapped her palate. Their chins got thoroughly wet".
> I had not thought that visually the tongue would also look very much
> like a strawberry! Today I found a picture in a magazine that amazed me
> and I thought that you might be interested in sharing it with me... Jansy
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From Jeff Edmunds <jhe2@psulias.psu.edu>:
For me the comparison of tongue to hot boiled strawberry is more tactile than
visual, despite the similarities in size, color, and, as Jansy demonstrates
with the image she sent to the list, shape. After all, in kissing, neither
party sharing the tongue can see it, but both are keenly aware of its texture.
Footnote 10 of an ancient article on _Korol', dama, valet_ (KDV) and _King
Queen Knave_ (KQK) reads:
The strawberry/tongue relationship may have bled into the English version of
KDV from _Ada_, which Nabokov was composing at the same time he was revising
KQK. In Chapter 17, Van and Ada are exchanging sloppy kisses: "'I can lend you
my tongue,' she said, and did. A large boiled strawberry, still very hot."
The passage in the text of the article that refers to this footnote, which
claims that "In more than one instance VN's revamping of _KDV_ seems overdone,"
cites as one example: "the simple and evocative 'frukt' whose lack at the
station's sandwich stall Dreier bemoans [in the Russian version] is transformed
into the absurdly overwrought 'nice, plump, lumpy, glossy red strawberries
positively crying to be bitten into, all their achenes proclaiming their
affinity with one's own tongue's papillae."
This passage of _KQK_ suggests to me that the origin and aptness of Nabokov's
tongue/hot boiled strawberry metaphor is more tactile than visual, but of
course as Jansy rightly points out, visually the metaphor works deftly.
At 11:00 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello
To: don barton johnson
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:26 PM
Subject: a curious image
Dear Don,
Besides synesthesia, VN´s imagetic precision is astounding by the way he
condensed different informations.
I had always thought that the image of Ada´s tongue as hot and soft like a
strawbery was sufficiently precise:
"'I can lend you my tongue,' she said, and did.A large boiled strawberry,
still very hot. He sucked it in as far as it would go. He held her close and
lapped her palate. Their chins got thoroughly wet".
I had not thought that visually the tongue would also look very much like a
strawberry! Today I found a picture in a magazine that amazed me and I thought
that you might be interested in sharing it with me... Jansy
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