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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:28:44 +0200
From: "A. Bouazza" <mushtary@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: "A. Bouazza" <mushtary@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: ck responds to Jansy's response to Joe Morgan
To: "Donald B. Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu>
Dear Don,
I am referring to the attachment advertising a course in Medieval and
Renaissance Lit. Centerwall warns that the books to be read will be obscene
(Satyricon, Golden Ass, Canterbury Tales). I couldn't resist the
paranomasiac temptation to alter the word "expected" into "unexpurgated" in
the sentence "Students will read and discuss works both expected and
unexpected..."
Hope this helps,
AB.
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald B. Johnson [mailto:chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu]
Sent: 12 September 2005 21:16
To: A. Bouazza
Subject: RE: ck responds to Jansy's response to Joe Morgan
Abdellah.....I don't understand this. Could you clarify? Thanks...Don
Quoting "A. Bouazza" <mushtary@yahoo.com>:
> ck responds to Jansy's response to Joe MorganIt's quite telling that
> Centerwall still has an interest in "smutty" literature.
>
> Students will read and discuss works both expected and unexpurgated,
>
> A. Bouazza.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vladimir Nabokov Forum [mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU]On
Behalf
> Of Donald B. Johnson
> Sent: 12 September 2005 20:30
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Subject: Fwd: ck responds to Jansy's response to Joe Morgan
>
>
> Does it matter if a boy becomes a girl in a novel, or when the seduction
> by a rich relative becomes the story of an old sweet lady haunted by
ghosts
> when we only exchange the images of one into the other ? This is to
trivial
>> to engage Nabokov´s genius and his reader´s talents, as I see it. The
> importance lies in the mechanisms through which these transformations took
> place. The tactics of a "Word Golf" in the transposition from lame into
lass
> or Lady.
> >
> > Jansy
>
>
> Dear Jansy,
>
> You are indeed a true Derriderian. But I am not and I find this question
> to be of great interest. I do not know if Centerwall's theory is correct,
> but if it is, it goes a long way to explain one of the riddles Nabokov's
> work poses: how is it that the idyllic childhood painted by VN morphs into
> the sexually perverse literature of his adulthood? A very interesting
> metamorphosis indeed.
>
> It appears that Jo Morgan is riding on Centerwall's back, and her faults
> are muddying the waters of this question. I would like to see - - on this
> List perhaps - - a reasoned and un-emotional rebuttal to Centerwall's
> theory.
>
> By the way Centerwall is active, teaching English (see attached course
> description) at the University of Washington. He has a medical degree and
is
> pursuing a Ph.D. in textual studies.
>
> Carolyn
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:28:44 +0200
From: "A. Bouazza" <mushtary@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: "A. Bouazza" <mushtary@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: ck responds to Jansy's response to Joe Morgan
To: "Donald B. Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu>
Dear Don,
I am referring to the attachment advertising a course in Medieval and
Renaissance Lit. Centerwall warns that the books to be read will be obscene
(Satyricon, Golden Ass, Canterbury Tales). I couldn't resist the
paranomasiac temptation to alter the word "expected" into "unexpurgated" in
the sentence "Students will read and discuss works both expected and
unexpected..."
Hope this helps,
AB.
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald B. Johnson [mailto:chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu]
Sent: 12 September 2005 21:16
To: A. Bouazza
Subject: RE: ck responds to Jansy's response to Joe Morgan
Abdellah.....I don't understand this. Could you clarify? Thanks...Don
Quoting "A. Bouazza" <mushtary@yahoo.com>:
> ck responds to Jansy's response to Joe MorganIt's quite telling that
> Centerwall still has an interest in "smutty" literature.
>
> Students will read and discuss works both expected and unexpurgated,
>
> A. Bouazza.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vladimir Nabokov Forum [mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU]On
Behalf
> Of Donald B. Johnson
> Sent: 12 September 2005 20:30
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Subject: Fwd: ck responds to Jansy's response to Joe Morgan
>
>
> Does it matter if a boy becomes a girl in a novel, or when the seduction
> by a rich relative becomes the story of an old sweet lady haunted by
ghosts
> when we only exchange the images of one into the other ? This is to
trivial
>> to engage Nabokov´s genius and his reader´s talents, as I see it. The
> importance lies in the mechanisms through which these transformations took
> place. The tactics of a "Word Golf" in the transposition from lame into
lass
> or Lady.
> >
> > Jansy
>
>
> Dear Jansy,
>
> You are indeed a true Derriderian. But I am not and I find this question
> to be of great interest. I do not know if Centerwall's theory is correct,
> but if it is, it goes a long way to explain one of the riddles Nabokov's
> work poses: how is it that the idyllic childhood painted by VN morphs into
> the sexually perverse literature of his adulthood? A very interesting
> metamorphosis indeed.
>
> It appears that Jo Morgan is riding on Centerwall's back, and her faults
> are muddying the waters of this question. I would like to see - - on this
> List perhaps - - a reasoned and un-emotional rebuttal to Centerwall's
> theory.
>
> By the way Centerwall is active, teaching English (see attached course
> description) at the University of Washington. He has a medical degree and
is
> pursuing a Ph.D. in textual studies.
>
> Carolyn
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