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That is exactly what I'm trying to show in my article: Bend Sinister,
Transparent Things, Pale Fire as "dream-texts". Yet the dreamlike qualities
of Nabokov's style have been discussed by other scholars, too. E.g. by
Juri Levin in his "Notes on Mary".
Marina Grishakova
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> Date: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:02 PM -0400
> From: George Shimanovich <gshiman@optonline.net>
> To: 'Vladimir Nabokov Forum' <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> Subject: RE: Nabokov, Dunne, and dreams
>
>
> After reading this it strikes me that Nabokov's style can be
> characterized
> as having precision and conviction of recorded dream.
>
>
>
> - George
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vladimir Nabokov Forum [mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU] On
> Behalf
> Of D. Barton Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:39 PM
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Subject: Fw: Nabokov, Dunne, and dreams
>
>
>
> EDNOTE. NABOKV-L thanks Dmitri Nabokov for sharing the items below and
> attached. J.W. Dunne's _An Experiment with Time_ (many editions &
> reprintings) led VN to his own experiments to determine dream evidence
> bearing on the nature of time. The material below is a fascinating
> sample.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Dmitri Nabokov
>
> To: NABOKV-L
>
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:17 AM
>
> Subject: Nabokov, Dunne, and dreams
>
>
>
> Dear Don,
>
>
>
> In the context of Aaron Bradford's posting of Bastille Day, feel free to
> post all of the following, including the attachment.
>
>
>
> The attachment contains a dream my father had on the night from November
> 23rd to November 24th, 1964. Something to honor VN's hundredth
> birthday had
> been requested by David Remnick of the NEW YORKER and he was very
> pleased
> to publish VN's transcription of a dream. Some time thereafter Anthony
> Stadlen, in connection with his Inner Circle Seminar titled Psychotherapy
> Without Psychologism, approached me about the possibility of utilizing
> some
> VN dreams in one of his London lectures. All this led me to transcribe
> from
> handwritten index cards and begin carefully examining my father's
> resulting
> dream book, some 110 triple-spaced pages mainly of his own dreams but
> also
> in part of Véra Nabokov's, meticulously recorded in late 1964 and early
> 1965, in an effort to reproduce some of the phenomena described in J.W.
> Dunne's "An Experiment with Time". I used a portion of Father's dream
> material in a couple of my California lectures. Otherwise it is
> unpublished. As one might imagine, it contains much that it is
> stunning. I
> have not yet decided exactly how to deal with it. It begins thus:
>
>
>
> Re Dunne Oct. 14, 1964
>
>
>
> An Experiment
>
>
>
> The following checking of dream events was undertaken to illustrate the
> principle of "reverse memory". The waking event resembling or coinciding
> with the dream event does so not because the latter is a prophecy but
> because this would be the kind of dream that one might expect to have
> after
> the event. If the succession of dream and waking event were reversed[,]
> approximations are marked by underlined dates in red[,] and indubitable
> repetitions thus[symbol?].
>
>
>
>
>
> Curious features of my dreams:
>
> 1) Very exact clock time awareness but hazy passing-of-time feeling
>
> 2) Many perfect strangers - some in almost every dream
>
> 3) Verbal details
>
> 4) Fairly sustained, fairly clear, fairly logical (within special limits)
> cogitation
>
> 5) Great difficulty in recalling a complete dream even in outline
>
> 6) Recurrent types and themes
>
>
>
>
>
> Types of dreams:
>
> 1) Professional & vocational (in my case: literature, teaching and
> lepidoptera)
>
> 2) Dim-doom dreams (in my case fatidic-sign nightmares,[sic] (thalamic
> calamities, menacing series and riddles)
>
> 3) Obvious influences of immediate occupations & impressions (olympic
> games
> etc)
>
> 4) Memories of the remote past (childhood, emigré life, school, parents)
>
> 5) "Precognitive"
>
> 6) Erotic tenderness and heart-rending enchantment
>
>
>
>
>
> Followed by transcriptions of the dreams.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best greetings to all,
>
>
>
> DN, assistant expert
>
> ---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
>
>
>
> D. Barton Johnson
> NABOKV-L
>
---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
D. Barton Johnson
NABOKV-L
That is exactly what I'm trying to show in my article: Bend Sinister,
Transparent Things, Pale Fire as "dream-texts". Yet the dreamlike qualities
of Nabokov's style have been discussed by other scholars, too. E.g. by
Juri Levin in his "Notes on Mary".
Marina Grishakova
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> Date: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:02 PM -0400
> From: George Shimanovich <gshiman@optonline.net>
> To: 'Vladimir Nabokov Forum' <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> Subject: RE: Nabokov, Dunne, and dreams
>
>
> After reading this it strikes me that Nabokov's style can be
> characterized
> as having precision and conviction of recorded dream.
>
>
>
> - George
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vladimir Nabokov Forum [mailto:NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU] On
> Behalf
> Of D. Barton Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:39 PM
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Subject: Fw: Nabokov, Dunne, and dreams
>
>
>
> EDNOTE. NABOKV-L thanks Dmitri Nabokov for sharing the items below and
> attached. J.W. Dunne's _An Experiment with Time_ (many editions &
> reprintings) led VN to his own experiments to determine dream evidence
> bearing on the nature of time. The material below is a fascinating
> sample.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Dmitri Nabokov
>
> To: NABOKV-L
>
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:17 AM
>
> Subject: Nabokov, Dunne, and dreams
>
>
>
> Dear Don,
>
>
>
> In the context of Aaron Bradford's posting of Bastille Day, feel free to
> post all of the following, including the attachment.
>
>
>
> The attachment contains a dream my father had on the night from November
> 23rd to November 24th, 1964. Something to honor VN's hundredth
> birthday had
> been requested by David Remnick of the NEW YORKER and he was very
> pleased
> to publish VN's transcription of a dream. Some time thereafter Anthony
> Stadlen, in connection with his Inner Circle Seminar titled Psychotherapy
> Without Psychologism, approached me about the possibility of utilizing
> some
> VN dreams in one of his London lectures. All this led me to transcribe
> from
> handwritten index cards and begin carefully examining my father's
> resulting
> dream book, some 110 triple-spaced pages mainly of his own dreams but
> also
> in part of Véra Nabokov's, meticulously recorded in late 1964 and early
> 1965, in an effort to reproduce some of the phenomena described in J.W.
> Dunne's "An Experiment with Time". I used a portion of Father's dream
> material in a couple of my California lectures. Otherwise it is
> unpublished. As one might imagine, it contains much that it is
> stunning. I
> have not yet decided exactly how to deal with it. It begins thus:
>
>
>
> Re Dunne Oct. 14, 1964
>
>
>
> An Experiment
>
>
>
> The following checking of dream events was undertaken to illustrate the
> principle of "reverse memory". The waking event resembling or coinciding
> with the dream event does so not because the latter is a prophecy but
> because this would be the kind of dream that one might expect to have
> after
> the event. If the succession of dream and waking event were reversed[,]
> approximations are marked by underlined dates in red[,] and indubitable
> repetitions thus[symbol?].
>
>
>
>
>
> Curious features of my dreams:
>
> 1) Very exact clock time awareness but hazy passing-of-time feeling
>
> 2) Many perfect strangers - some in almost every dream
>
> 3) Verbal details
>
> 4) Fairly sustained, fairly clear, fairly logical (within special limits)
> cogitation
>
> 5) Great difficulty in recalling a complete dream even in outline
>
> 6) Recurrent types and themes
>
>
>
>
>
> Types of dreams:
>
> 1) Professional & vocational (in my case: literature, teaching and
> lepidoptera)
>
> 2) Dim-doom dreams (in my case fatidic-sign nightmares,[sic] (thalamic
> calamities, menacing series and riddles)
>
> 3) Obvious influences of immediate occupations & impressions (olympic
> games
> etc)
>
> 4) Memories of the remote past (childhood, emigré life, school, parents)
>
> 5) "Precognitive"
>
> 6) Erotic tenderness and heart-rending enchantment
>
>
>
>
>
> Followed by transcriptions of the dreams.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best greetings to all,
>
>
>
> DN, assistant expert
>
> ---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
>
>
>
> D. Barton Johnson
> NABOKV-L
>
---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
D. Barton Johnson
NABOKV-L