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EDNOTE. Time Synchronization is important in VN. Jonathan Sisson wrote an
excellent dissertation on the topic--a piece of it appeared in issue #1 of
NABOKOV STUDIES.
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 10:25:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Alyssa Pelish <hsilep@yahoo.com>
Just off hand, I don't know whether VN ever discusses Proust's theory on
involuntary memory, but, in case you haven't checked already, his lecture on
"Swann's Way" would be a likely place. (Within this lecture, I've actually
found a few delightful observations that seem (retrospectively) to function
almost as commentary on VN's own writing.) I suppose, too, one could assert
that such discussion or exploration of kinds of memory occurs in _Speak,
Memory_, though without, of course, any explicit reference to Proust.
Do let me know if you find anything more specific! I'd love to know.
Alyssa Pelish
"Donald B. Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu> wrote:
Thanks, ED and Alyssa for tossing in a coin about time in Anna Karenin and
Pnin, a very interesting track to explore.
Alyssa expressed her misgivings about "misplaced memories" - a contrast to
VN´s constant attempt to control or recreate his own ( he wrote in Ada that
he "collected what he wanted to recollect" ...) The temporality arisen by
our remembrances follows rules that don´t belong to clocks, historical
sequencing and traditional physics... Does any of you know if VN ever
commented Proust´s theory about "involuntary memories" ?
Thanks, again.
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From: "Donald B. Johnson"
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Subject: Re: Fw: time synchronizatio: coin
EDNOTE. Alyssa's idea crossed my minf as well.
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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 10:31:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Alyssa Pelish
Jansy,
I wonder if it's worth bringing up, on a related note, VN's (or Pnin's, at
least) interest in the subtly skewed presentation of time in _Anna
Karenina_.
I think (though this may be a misplaced memory) he discusses this in his
lecture on the latter novel. Seems to be part of a general fascination with
time and patterns throughout time.
Just thought I'd toss that out.
Alyssa Pelish
"D. Barton Johnson" wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello
To: don barton johnson
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 6:42 PM
Subject: coin
Hi, Don,
I wonder if the text below can interest you and the List. I´ll send it on
anyway.
The idea is to bring out VN´s fascination with J.Joyce´s synchronization
devices.
The lines in TT about the cockshuttle ( that appears twice, at least, after
an
interval of eight years), together with the theme of "picking up coins" can
be
associated to VN´s Lecture on James Joyce, when VN comments about
Part two, ch. 7 of "Ulysses":
" in the second section the synchronization begins (...) See the technique?
It
is now three. Kelleher sends a silent jet of hayjuice (...)and at the same
time
in another part of the town a generous white arm ( Molly Bloom´s) from a
window
in Eccles Street, three miles away to the northwest, flings forth a coin to
the
one-legged sailor who has by now reached Eccles Street (...) Lenehan´s
walking
(...) is synchronized with Molly Bloom replacing the card advertising an
unfurnished apartment that has slipped from the sash when she opened it to
fling the one-legged sailor a penny.
And since at that same time Kelleher was talking...(...) we conclude with a
tinge of artistic pleasure that sections 2,3 and 9 occurred simultaneously
in
different places.
( pag.331/332 or 3:00 o´clock ) F. Bowers ed.1980.
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excellent dissertation on the topic--a piece of it appeared in issue #1 of
NABOKOV STUDIES.
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 10:25:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Alyssa Pelish <hsilep@yahoo.com>
Just off hand, I don't know whether VN ever discusses Proust's theory on
involuntary memory, but, in case you haven't checked already, his lecture on
"Swann's Way" would be a likely place. (Within this lecture, I've actually
found a few delightful observations that seem (retrospectively) to function
almost as commentary on VN's own writing.) I suppose, too, one could assert
that such discussion or exploration of kinds of memory occurs in _Speak,
Memory_, though without, of course, any explicit reference to Proust.
Do let me know if you find anything more specific! I'd love to know.
Alyssa Pelish
"Donald B. Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu> wrote:
Thanks, ED and Alyssa for tossing in a coin about time in Anna Karenin and
Pnin, a very interesting track to explore.
Alyssa expressed her misgivings about "misplaced memories" - a contrast to
VN´s constant attempt to control or recreate his own ( he wrote in Ada that
he "collected what he wanted to recollect" ...) The temporality arisen by
our remembrances follows rules that don´t belong to clocks, historical
sequencing and traditional physics... Does any of you know if VN ever
commented Proust´s theory about "involuntary memories" ?
Thanks, again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald B. Johnson"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: time synchronizatio: coin
EDNOTE. Alyssa's idea crossed my minf as well.
----- Forwarded message from hsilep@yahoo.com -----
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 10:31:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Alyssa Pelish
Jansy,
I wonder if it's worth bringing up, on a related note, VN's (or Pnin's, at
least) interest in the subtly skewed presentation of time in _Anna
Karenina_.
I think (though this may be a misplaced memory) he discusses this in his
lecture on the latter novel. Seems to be part of a general fascination with
time and patterns throughout time.
Just thought I'd toss that out.
Alyssa Pelish
"D. Barton Johnson" wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello
To: don barton johnson
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 6:42 PM
Subject: coin
Hi, Don,
I wonder if the text below can interest you and the List. I´ll send it on
anyway.
The idea is to bring out VN´s fascination with J.Joyce´s synchronization
devices.
The lines in TT about the cockshuttle ( that appears twice, at least, after
an
interval of eight years), together with the theme of "picking up coins" can
be
associated to VN´s Lecture on James Joyce, when VN comments about
Part two, ch. 7 of "Ulysses":
" in the second section the synchronization begins (...) See the technique?
It
is now three. Kelleher sends a silent jet of hayjuice (...)and at the same
time
in another part of the town a generous white arm ( Molly Bloom´s) from a
window
in Eccles Street, three miles away to the northwest, flings forth a coin to
the
one-legged sailor who has by now reached Eccles Street (...) Lenehan´s
walking
(...) is synchronized with Molly Bloom replacing the card advertising an
unfurnished apartment that has slipped from the sash when she opened it to
fling the one-legged sailor a penny.
And since at that same time Kelleher was talking...(...) we conclude with a
tinge of artistic pleasure that sections 2,3 and 9 occurred simultaneously
in
different places.
( pag.331/332 or 3:00 o´clock ) F. Bowers ed.1980.
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