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From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
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> Julia
> Perhaps you could give the sections for the Gift. So far you're the only
one
> to respond and I enjoyed your comments, but I cannot read them (sigh).
> Thanks for reminding me of those other parts...they had slipped my mind -
> they're also pretty disgusting. This whole feces business got me scanning
> other works for this type of thing...no real luck except for the VN-EW
> Letters. In letter 100 VN describes a food poisoning bout so graffic and
> sickening that it almost gave me food poisoning (also available in Boyd's
> Amer. Years - somewhere).
> Dane
> ps you have a very hip name
>
>
> >From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >Subject: Fw: Fw: creepy thoughts on ADA
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:45:22 -0800
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Julia Sky" <juliasky@inbox.ru>
> >To: "Vladimir Nabokov Forum" <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> > >
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> > > Thank you Dane for your intrepid question!
> > > A question, What For? also occupies me for quite a time. Actually, in
> > > STANDARD novels the theme of defecation, etc. is a taboo, and Ada is
not
> > > standard. The scene you are writing about is in part 2, chapter 3.
There
> >are
> > > some more things of that kind e.g. the very end of part 4: Van
welcomed
> >the
> > > renewal of polished structures after a week of black fudge fouling the
> >bowl
> > > slope so high that no amount of flushing could dislodge it (p 441 in
> >Penguin
> > > classics' book). Or else, part 1 chapter 38: "Tranquilly, innocently,
> >side
> > > by side in their separately ordained attitudes, they added a trickle
and
> >a
> > > gush to the more professional sounds of the rain in the night:" (p
208).
> > >
> > > My idea is that for the scene in Villa Venus we can look for
explanation
> > > starting from demons and their hidden flaws in The Gift / DAR (sorry I
> >have
> > > only Russian text of the novel): мир прекрасных демонов; но в
прекрасном
> > > демоне есть всегда тайный изъян, стыдная бородавка на заду у подобия
> > > совершенства; лакированным лакомкам реклам, объедающимся желатином, не
> >знать
> > > тихих отрад гастронома (New York, 1952, p 20) (I wouldn't dare
translate
> >VN
> > > myself)
> > >
> > > "Polished structures" appear to be an answer to structuralism theory,
> >aren'
> > > t they?
> > >
> > > Those who study Ada tend to avoid these greasy places but why
shouldn't
> >we
> > > try to find out the reason of their existence? And one more thing for
> > > bilingual readers, Akhmatova wrote: <когда б вы знали, из какого сора
> > > растут стихи, не ведая стыда>, a pop-star echoed <я тебя слепила из
> >того,
> > > что было, а потом что было, то и полюбила>.
> > >
> > > Sincerely, JS.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
>
> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (75
lines) ------------------
> Julia
> Perhaps you could give the sections for the Gift. So far you're the only
one
> to respond and I enjoyed your comments, but I cannot read them (sigh).
> Thanks for reminding me of those other parts...they had slipped my mind -
> they're also pretty disgusting. This whole feces business got me scanning
> other works for this type of thing...no real luck except for the VN-EW
> Letters. In letter 100 VN describes a food poisoning bout so graffic and
> sickening that it almost gave me food poisoning (also available in Boyd's
> Amer. Years - somewhere).
> Dane
> ps you have a very hip name
>
>
> >From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >Subject: Fw: Fw: creepy thoughts on ADA
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 15:45:22 -0800
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Julia Sky" <juliasky@inbox.ru>
> >To: "Vladimir Nabokov Forum" <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> > >
> > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (32
> >lines) ------------------
> > > Thank you Dane for your intrepid question!
> > > A question, What For? also occupies me for quite a time. Actually, in
> > > STANDARD novels the theme of defecation, etc. is a taboo, and Ada is
not
> > > standard. The scene you are writing about is in part 2, chapter 3.
There
> >are
> > > some more things of that kind e.g. the very end of part 4: Van
welcomed
> >the
> > > renewal of polished structures after a week of black fudge fouling the
> >bowl
> > > slope so high that no amount of flushing could dislodge it (p 441 in
> >Penguin
> > > classics' book). Or else, part 1 chapter 38: "Tranquilly, innocently,
> >side
> > > by side in their separately ordained attitudes, they added a trickle
and
> >a
> > > gush to the more professional sounds of the rain in the night:" (p
208).
> > >
> > > My idea is that for the scene in Villa Venus we can look for
explanation
> > > starting from demons and their hidden flaws in The Gift / DAR (sorry I
> >have
> > > only Russian text of the novel): мир прекрасных демонов; но в
прекрасном
> > > демоне есть всегда тайный изъян, стыдная бородавка на заду у подобия
> > > совершенства; лакированным лакомкам реклам, объедающимся желатином, не
> >знать
> > > тихих отрад гастронома (New York, 1952, p 20) (I wouldn't dare
translate
> >VN
> > > myself)
> > >
> > > "Polished structures" appear to be an answer to structuralism theory,
> >aren'
> > > t they?
> > >
> > > Those who study Ada tend to avoid these greasy places but why
shouldn't
> >we
> > > try to find out the reason of their existence? And one more thing for
> > > bilingual readers, Akhmatova wrote: <когда б вы знали, из какого сора
> > > растут стихи, не ведая стыда>, a pop-star echoed <я тебя слепила из
> >того,
> > > что было, а потом что было, то и полюбила>.
> > >
> > > Sincerely, JS.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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