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From: "Brian Walter" <bdwalter@artsci.wustl.edu>
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> For what it's worth, when I was working on the PALE FIRE chapter of my
> dissertation many years ago, I spent quite a lot of time tracing out
> and diagramming the "reference patterns" in Kinbote's commentary (the
> results of these efforts appeared as an appendix, "A Guide to Kinbote's
> Commentary"). So, in addition to the potentially "endless loop" that
> Bruce Stone has identified connecting the notes to lines 47-48 and 62,
> let me mention one other pair of notes that serves up a similar game:
> the notes to lines 270 and to 993-995.
>
> Also, the notes to lines 60, 275, and 433-434 offer an interesting
> variant on this "endless loop." The note to line 275 directs the
> reader to the note to line 433-434, which in turn directs the reader to
> the note to line 80. The note to line 80 kind of returns the favor in
> the last paragraph when it refers (rather suggestively) to Charles the
> Beloved's "far more dramatic ordeal thirteen years later with Disa,
> Duchess of Payn, whom he married in 1949, as described in notes to
> lines 275 and 433-434, which the student of Shade's poem will reach in
> due time; there is no hurry" (p. 112 in the Vintage). So, the student
> of Shade's poem who is impatient enough to jump to the other notes will
> find himself in a triply-enclosed loop (or some such conundrum).
>
> Brian Walter
>
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 02:49 PM, D. Barton Johnson wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce Stone" <bstone41@hotmail.com>
> >>
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> >> This happens with the note to lines 47-48 and the note to line 62.
> >> Pages
> > 87
> >> and 96 in the Vintage edition.
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >>> Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >>> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >>> Subject: Fw: Circularity in the Notes to Pale Fire
> >>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:07:42 -0800
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: CGuerin@aol.com
> >>> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:22 AM
> >>> Subject: Circularity in the Notes to Pale Fire
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps I hallucinated this: in my first reading of Pale Fire, some
> >>> 25
> >>> years ago, I discovered a circularity in the notes to Pale Fire.
> >>> Note X
> >>> said, see Note Y, and Note Y said see Note X. A joke that made me
> >>> laugh
> >>> out loud. Rereading the book last fall, I --------couldn't find it..
> > Did
> >>> I miss it or misremember it?
> >>> --------------------------------
> >>> EDRESPONSE. You are probably thinking of the Index rather than
> >>> Kinbote's
> >>> annotations. I have devoted a chapter in my WORLDS IN REGRESSION such
> >>> matters and I'. sure Brian Boyd covers the matter in his recent book
> >>> on
> > PF.
> >>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
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> >
>
From: "Brian Walter" <bdwalter@artsci.wustl.edu>
> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (75
lines) ------------------
> For what it's worth, when I was working on the PALE FIRE chapter of my
> dissertation many years ago, I spent quite a lot of time tracing out
> and diagramming the "reference patterns" in Kinbote's commentary (the
> results of these efforts appeared as an appendix, "A Guide to Kinbote's
> Commentary"). So, in addition to the potentially "endless loop" that
> Bruce Stone has identified connecting the notes to lines 47-48 and 62,
> let me mention one other pair of notes that serves up a similar game:
> the notes to lines 270 and to 993-995.
>
> Also, the notes to lines 60, 275, and 433-434 offer an interesting
> variant on this "endless loop." The note to line 275 directs the
> reader to the note to line 433-434, which in turn directs the reader to
> the note to line 80. The note to line 80 kind of returns the favor in
> the last paragraph when it refers (rather suggestively) to Charles the
> Beloved's "far more dramatic ordeal thirteen years later with Disa,
> Duchess of Payn, whom he married in 1949, as described in notes to
> lines 275 and 433-434, which the student of Shade's poem will reach in
> due time; there is no hurry" (p. 112 in the Vintage). So, the student
> of Shade's poem who is impatient enough to jump to the other notes will
> find himself in a triply-enclosed loop (or some such conundrum).
>
> Brian Walter
>
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 02:49 PM, D. Barton Johnson wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce Stone" <bstone41@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (34
> > lines) ------------------
> >> This happens with the note to lines 47-48 and the note to line 62.
> >> Pages
> > 87
> >> and 96 in the Vintage edition.
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >>> Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >>> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >>> Subject: Fw: Circularity in the Notes to Pale Fire
> >>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:07:42 -0800
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: CGuerin@aol.com
> >>> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:22 AM
> >>> Subject: Circularity in the Notes to Pale Fire
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps I hallucinated this: in my first reading of Pale Fire, some
> >>> 25
> >>> years ago, I discovered a circularity in the notes to Pale Fire.
> >>> Note X
> >>> said, see Note Y, and Note Y said see Note X. A joke that made me
> >>> laugh
> >>> out loud. Rereading the book last fall, I --------couldn't find it..
> > Did
> >>> I miss it or misremember it?
> >>> --------------------------------
> >>> EDRESPONSE. You are probably thinking of the Index rather than
> >>> Kinbote's
> >>> annotations. I have devoted a chapter in my WORLDS IN REGRESSION such
> >>> matters and I'. sure Brian Boyd covers the matter in his recent book
> >>> on
> > PF.
> >>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here.
> >> http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
> >>
> >
>