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From: "Andrew Brown" <as-brown@comcast.net>
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> "I seem to recall noting the ways in which Shade is portrayed both as a
> scholarly member of the ivory tower *and* as a liquor-sneaking,
> blonde-chick-in-the-leotards appreciating sort of fella. Does this
> dichotomy qualify? Can it be further developed?"
>
>
> As an older reader, though not by any means of Nabokov's generation, I
don't
> see this as a dichotomy so much as the whole man. Check the biographies of
> just about any American male poet born from the turn of the century
throuigh
> the 20s. The
scholarly-ivory-tower-liquor-sneaking-blonde-chick-in-leotards
> chasing sort of fella is less a dichotomy than it is simply a type.
> Schwartz? Lowell? Berryman? Jarrell? Humboldt Von Fleischer?
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> > >
> > > Why is it significant that we, as readers, view both characters in
light
> =
> > > of their mature and immature qualities? Is this important to our =
> > > understanding of the novel as a whole?
> > >
> > >
> > > For those of us reading Pale Fire:
> > >
> > > Does Nabokov develop a similar dichotomy with either Kinbote or Shade.
> > Not necessarily in terms of maturity/immaturity, but can one build a
case
> > for either/both characters embodying qualities of (for example)
> > sanity/madness? love/hate?
> > >
> > > I seem to recall noting the ways in which Shade is portrayed both as a
> > scholarly member of the ivory tower *and* as a liquor-sneaking,
> > blonde-chick-in-the-leotards appreciating sort of fella. Does this
> > dichotomy qualify? Can it be further developed?
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "We are most artistically caged."
> > > ~~ John Francis Shade (1898 - 1959)
> > >
> > >
> > >>
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From: "Andrew Brown" <as-brown@comcast.net>
>
> ---------------- Message requiring your approval (216
lines) ------------------
> "I seem to recall noting the ways in which Shade is portrayed both as a
> scholarly member of the ivory tower *and* as a liquor-sneaking,
> blonde-chick-in-the-leotards appreciating sort of fella. Does this
> dichotomy qualify? Can it be further developed?"
>
>
> As an older reader, though not by any means of Nabokov's generation, I
don't
> see this as a dichotomy so much as the whole man. Check the biographies of
> just about any American male poet born from the turn of the century
throuigh
> the 20s. The
scholarly-ivory-tower-liquor-sneaking-blonde-chick-in-leotards
> chasing sort of fella is less a dichotomy than it is simply a type.
> Schwartz? Lowell? Berryman? Jarrell? Humboldt Von Fleischer?
--------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > >
> > > Why is it significant that we, as readers, view both characters in
light
> =
> > > of their mature and immature qualities? Is this important to our =
> > > understanding of the novel as a whole?
> > >
> > >
> > > For those of us reading Pale Fire:
> > >
> > > Does Nabokov develop a similar dichotomy with either Kinbote or Shade.
> > Not necessarily in terms of maturity/immaturity, but can one build a
case
> > for either/both characters embodying qualities of (for example)
> > sanity/madness? love/hate?
> > >
> > > I seem to recall noting the ways in which Shade is portrayed both as a
> > scholarly member of the ivory tower *and* as a liquor-sneaking,
> > blonde-chick-in-the-leotards appreciating sort of fella. Does this
> > dichotomy qualify? Can it be further developed?
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "We are most artistically caged."
> > > ~~ John Francis Shade (1898 - 1959)
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > > ------------------------------
> > > ********************************
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe, send a message to waste@waste.org
> > > with "unsubscribe pynchon-l-digest" in the message body.
> >
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