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From: "Morris, John" <MorrisJ@cisnet.org>
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> I discuss this question in my paper, "Genius and Plausibility: Suspension
of
> Disbelief in 'Pale Fire'," which you may read on the Zembla website,
> http://www.libraries.psu.edu/iasweb/nabokov/forians.htm. In brief, my
> conclusion is that VN thought highly of the poem "Pale Fire" as a
technical
> construction, and esteemed many of its tropes. But his opinion of it
overall
> was probably less enthusiastic than Boyd's. He intended Shade to be a good
> poet, but not a great one.
>
> J. Morris
>
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> From: D. Barton Johnson [mailto:chtodel@cox.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:06 PM
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> From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
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> > Greetings
> >
> > Is the poem in the novel, Pale Fire, supposed to be a demonstration of
> > poetic genuis? Is the poem itself a represntation of Shade's
straitforward
> > style, lacking in genuis, and just another indication of Kinbote's
> madness?
> > I've discussed this before (not here) to no avail. Basically what I'm
> asking
> > is this: Did Nabokov himself think the poem Pale Fire was a work of
> genius?
> >
> > I've read (references elude me now - but something tells me it was Boyd,
> > though not sure) that Pale Fire was actually the best poetry Nabokov
could
> > write. And as said in Strong Opinions, it was the most trouble he's ever
> had
> > with a piece of writing. I'm not very good at judging poetry (almost
never
> > reading it) and certainly not ones this long (a novel in verse?) can
only
> > give an invalid opinion here. Plae Fire strikes me as somewhat
> typical -the
> > style, the rhyming scheem- it's been done many times before. This is
> > something not present is Nabokov's novels (though he writes very
> poetical).
> > As you have read, my opinion is weak and can easily be swayed with the
> right
> > arguments. This novel is so beautiful.
> > Dane Gill
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
From: "Morris, John" <MorrisJ@cisnet.org>
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>
> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (52
lines) ------------------
> I discuss this question in my paper, "Genius and Plausibility: Suspension
of
> Disbelief in 'Pale Fire'," which you may read on the Zembla website,
> http://www.libraries.psu.edu/iasweb/nabokov/forians.htm. In brief, my
> conclusion is that VN thought highly of the poem "Pale Fire" as a
technical
> construction, and esteemed many of its tropes. But his opinion of it
overall
> was probably less enthusiastic than Boyd's. He intended Shade to be a good
> poet, but not a great one.
>
> J. Morris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D. Barton Johnson [mailto:chtodel@cox.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:06 PM
> To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> Subject: Fw: Pale Fire, the poem
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
> > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (24
> lines) ------------------
> > Greetings
> >
> > Is the poem in the novel, Pale Fire, supposed to be a demonstration of
> > poetic genuis? Is the poem itself a represntation of Shade's
straitforward
> > style, lacking in genuis, and just another indication of Kinbote's
> madness?
> > I've discussed this before (not here) to no avail. Basically what I'm
> asking
> > is this: Did Nabokov himself think the poem Pale Fire was a work of
> genius?
> >
> > I've read (references elude me now - but something tells me it was Boyd,
> > though not sure) that Pale Fire was actually the best poetry Nabokov
could
> > write. And as said in Strong Opinions, it was the most trouble he's ever
> had
> > with a piece of writing. I'm not very good at judging poetry (almost
never
> > reading it) and certainly not ones this long (a novel in verse?) can
only
> > give an invalid opinion here. Plae Fire strikes me as somewhat
> typical -the
> > style, the rhyming scheem- it's been done many times before. This is
> > something not present is Nabokov's novels (though he writes very
> poetical).
> > As you have read, my opinion is weak and can easily be swayed with the
> right
> > arguments. This novel is so beautiful.
> > Dane Gill
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> >