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EDNOTE. As to the first question: stress on the first syllable which
pronounced as the "A" in fAther. In normal speech the second (unstressed)
"A" would be pronounced as the "e" in "father," i.e. as a "schwa."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
>
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> Jansy (and List)
> THANK YOU sooooooo much. A very straight forward answer to my question,
much
> appreciated. As far as discussing Ada goes I could spend the rest of my
> life....Is there anything in the english language as complex and yet so
> beautiful?
> I just had a few more questions (I've searched the archives and Boyd to no
> avail...though there's a good chance I missed something)
> 1) I've been pronouncing it AYDAH...but apparently it rhymes with Nevada
as
> in AHDAH...but then there's the part about the Russian pronounciation
> ARDAR.....plus I've read about it sounding New England like as in (once
> again) AHDAH. Could someone clarify?
> 2) I understand Ada to be VN's "favourite", is this true? (As a side note
> what was Vera Nabokov's, if she had one? I read that DN's was Pale Fire so
> it is not taboo to ask such trivial questions)
> 3)I've read that (in reviews, etc) that many feel that Ada is simply "over
> the top". I disagree and feel that Ada is the "top"...comments?
> Dane Gill
>
> >From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >Subject: Fw: Fw: Cast of Ada
> >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:33:09 -0800
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello" <jansy@aetern.us>
> > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (71
> >lines) ------------------
> > > Hello, Dane Gill and List
> > >
> > > ( If I had my hands in a cast I wouldnб╢t be writing about the
Cast
> >of
> > > Ada. It would be less risky for me, but Iб╢m curious to see what
happens
> >if
> > > we keep this ball of Adaб╢s lineage rolling ..)
> > >
> > > Iб╢ve always been fascinated by Blanche, the Cinderella dustlady,
> >the
> > > "Ashette" that looses her shoes or delves in pumpkins ( this also
> >happens
> > > in Ada! ) whose finger draws figures along a dusty globe.
> > > Blanche has two other sisters, one of them is called Rose and the
> >other
> > > sometimes dresses up like a messenger boy, as in many Shakespeareб╢s
> >plays
> > > ( but only Twelfth Night comes to my mind now and Viola).
> > > She is more or less seventeen when she appears as a house-maid in
> >Ardis,
> > > but soon she becomes more and more ethereal or shadowy as if she were
a
> > > mythical figure ( one of the three muses, three witches, three
"parques"
> >?)
> > > or even a phantom expression of Adaб╢s.
> > > Demon seems to have the hots for every female in the novel and
they
> > > become younger and younger ashe grows older.
> > > Van seems to be equally ardent but he is also described as very
> >potent
> > > and sterile ( except, perhaps, for Cordullaб╢s pregnancy ). There is
a
> > > sentence in which Van seems to consider that he and his father share
> >this
> > > "late" sterility ..
> > > I was told that "eunuchs" in charge of harems are allowed sexual
> > > intercourse with the sultanб╢s wives but are unable to impregnate
them.
> >I
> > > donб╢t think VN was considering Van in such a role at Ericб╢s
> > > intercontinental harem houses or towards his fatherб╢s mistresses...
> > > I rather think that in "Ada" VN is describing an ideal romantic
> > > relationship, such as Tristan and Isoldaб╢s, by Vanб╢s love and
> >faithful
> > > dedication to his Ada.
> > > Ada is a caleidoscopic book and as colored. My comments aim
simply
> >to
> > > pick up the thread of your question and see where it will lead us to.
> > > Jansy
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> > > To: <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:25 PM
> > > Subject: Fw: Cast of Ada
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
> > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (18
> > > > lines) ------------------
> > > > > Greetings
> > > > > Just to clear things up a little but for me, could someone please
> > > explain
> > > > > some of the characters in Ada please:
> > > > > Blanche - who exactly is she, how old is she?
> > > > > Bout - an "old frenchen", but how old? And what's the name of his
> >son?
> > > > > Does Demon have the "hots" for every female in the novel? (Ada,
> >Lucette,
> > > > > Blanche...etc)
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that this may sound a little obvious to some people, but I
> >have
> > > > > always had trouble with Ada and now that I've finally "got" most
of
> >what
> > > > > confused me before (with much more to solve) this has me confused
> >once
> > > > > again.
> > > > > Thank you, Dane Gill
> > > > >
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pronounced as the "A" in fAther. In normal speech the second (unstressed)
"A" would be pronounced as the "e" in "father," i.e. as a "schwa."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
>
> ---------------- Message requiring your approval (123
lines) ------------------
> Jansy (and List)
> THANK YOU sooooooo much. A very straight forward answer to my question,
much
> appreciated. As far as discussing Ada goes I could spend the rest of my
> life....Is there anything in the english language as complex and yet so
> beautiful?
> I just had a few more questions (I've searched the archives and Boyd to no
> avail...though there's a good chance I missed something)
> 1) I've been pronouncing it AYDAH...but apparently it rhymes with Nevada
as
> in AHDAH...but then there's the part about the Russian pronounciation
> ARDAR.....plus I've read about it sounding New England like as in (once
> again) AHDAH. Could someone clarify?
> 2) I understand Ada to be VN's "favourite", is this true? (As a side note
> what was Vera Nabokov's, if she had one? I read that DN's was Pale Fire so
> it is not taboo to ask such trivial questions)
> 3)I've read that (in reviews, etc) that many feel that Ada is simply "over
> the top". I disagree and feel that Ada is the "top"...comments?
> Dane Gill
>
> >From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >Subject: Fw: Fw: Cast of Ada
> >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:33:09 -0800
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello" <jansy@aetern.us>
> > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (71
> >lines) ------------------
> > > Hello, Dane Gill and List
> > >
> > > ( If I had my hands in a cast I wouldnб╢t be writing about the
Cast
> >of
> > > Ada. It would be less risky for me, but Iб╢m curious to see what
happens
> >if
> > > we keep this ball of Adaб╢s lineage rolling ..)
> > >
> > > Iб╢ve always been fascinated by Blanche, the Cinderella dustlady,
> >the
> > > "Ashette" that looses her shoes or delves in pumpkins ( this also
> >happens
> > > in Ada! ) whose finger draws figures along a dusty globe.
> > > Blanche has two other sisters, one of them is called Rose and the
> >other
> > > sometimes dresses up like a messenger boy, as in many Shakespeareб╢s
> >plays
> > > ( but only Twelfth Night comes to my mind now and Viola).
> > > She is more or less seventeen when she appears as a house-maid in
> >Ardis,
> > > but soon she becomes more and more ethereal or shadowy as if she were
a
> > > mythical figure ( one of the three muses, three witches, three
"parques"
> >?)
> > > or even a phantom expression of Adaб╢s.
> > > Demon seems to have the hots for every female in the novel and
they
> > > become younger and younger ashe grows older.
> > > Van seems to be equally ardent but he is also described as very
> >potent
> > > and sterile ( except, perhaps, for Cordullaб╢s pregnancy ). There is
a
> > > sentence in which Van seems to consider that he and his father share
> >this
> > > "late" sterility ..
> > > I was told that "eunuchs" in charge of harems are allowed sexual
> > > intercourse with the sultanб╢s wives but are unable to impregnate
them.
> >I
> > > donб╢t think VN was considering Van in such a role at Ericб╢s
> > > intercontinental harem houses or towards his fatherб╢s mistresses...
> > > I rather think that in "Ada" VN is describing an ideal romantic
> > > relationship, such as Tristan and Isoldaб╢s, by Vanб╢s love and
> >faithful
> > > dedication to his Ada.
> > > Ada is a caleidoscopic book and as colored. My comments aim
simply
> >to
> > > pick up the thread of your question and see where it will lead us to.
> > > Jansy
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> > > To: <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:25 PM
> > > Subject: Fw: Cast of Ada
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
> > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (18
> > > > lines) ------------------
> > > > > Greetings
> > > > > Just to clear things up a little but for me, could someone please
> > > explain
> > > > > some of the characters in Ada please:
> > > > > Blanche - who exactly is she, how old is she?
> > > > > Bout - an "old frenchen", but how old? And what's the name of his
> >son?
> > > > > Does Demon have the "hots" for every female in the novel? (Ada,
> >Lucette,
> > > > > Blanche...etc)
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that this may sound a little obvious to some people, but I
> >have
> > > > > always had trouble with Ada and now that I've finally "got" most
of
> >what
> > > > > confused me before (with much more to solve) this has me confused
> >once
> > > > > again.
> > > > > Thank you, Dane Gill
> > > > >
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